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Bobby Lashley Isn’t ‘The Guy’

Our dear editor posted an article touting the virtues of Bobby Lashley as TNA World Champion and I have to say that I disagree. Don’t get me wrong, Lashley is probably at his best as a worker in a long time. He had an entertaining bout against Kenny King on television and his match with Samoa Joe at Slammiversary was very good. Mostly, this is because he is playing to his strengths which are being the silent muscle.

[adinserter block=”1″]However, I don’t believe that he should have been world champion, heck I’m surprised they brought him back in the first place. No offense, I also had the same feelings with MVP since both guys haven’t been in the national spotlight in a long while. Plus, was anybody banging down the door to bring in MVP who really hadn’t made much of a dent in NJPW and Lashley who all but disappeared after his TNA run bar some minor indy appearances. Not only that, but MVP is 40 and Lashley is 37 which might not sound bad, but how much can you get out of these guys?

Here are my thoughts, if you want a guy to play the muscle, Chris Masters is only thirty-one years old and has improved greatly from his WWE days. He’s worked all over the world trying to improve as a worker and that is the type of WWE cast-off TNA should be bringing in. A young guy with upside, a guy who’s going to improve and you can build your company around. Remember, Christian was only 32 years old when TNA snatched him up after he left the company, heck Lashley was 33 when he signed on with the company. I presume that Lashley believed that he’d have a stellar run in TNA and the WWE would just have to bring him back.

Then again, it could be that same type of situation that TNA wants to avoid, sign up a young cast-off, build them up to only have Vince come calling with a nice big contract. Remember, Matt Morgan and how he became a not-bad wrestler and big man when joined TNA at the age of 31. WWE showed interest in bringing him back after a TNA run, but the lawsuit between the two companies put the kibosh on that. Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards are 31 and 30, so who knows with them. Once their deals are up, maybe the WWE decides to call again with a better deal than before.

So that might be TNA’s play, give the ball to the ex-WWE guys that aren’t at that point in their career where a WWE return isn’t likely. They’re in their mid to late 30’s, so the WWE might come calling if they want them to show up at the Rumble. As much as I wanted to see Bully Ray back in the WWE and a potential gimmick match with Cena, I don’t see that happen. After his TNA deal is up, I can see the WWE calling him and D-Von to make nostalgia appearances, but not much else. Probably a Dudley Boyz Hall of Fame induction eventually and a much anticipated two pack of figures.

There is one more problem with Lashley and this is his biggest problem.

He isn’t a monster and that’s what TNA wants him to be.

And he sure as hell isn’t Brock Lesnar.

While TNA wants Lashley to be their version of Lesnar so badly, an MMA bad ass who just kills people, that just can’t happen. Lashley’s MMA career was less than stell: Loss to James Thompson, beating up Clay Guida’s brother, avoiding fights against anybody who was remotely good (Shane del Rosario), opponents that were tomato cans and a rumored fixed victory against Bob Sapp. Plus, he doesn’t have the monster aura that Lesnar or even some of the MMA crossover guys had. He lacks the charisma of Sapp, the intensity of Shamrock, the cult following of Tank Abbott or the tough guy persona of Don Frye. Bas Rutten, one of the coolest cats in MMA did pro wrestling, working for New Japan and it worked because he was charismatic and could work a crowd. Or even the amateur pedigree of Mark Coleman, Dan Severn and Kevin Randleman.

Joe Rogan summarized it best when Brock Lesnar was making his debut at UFC 81, Brock Lesnar was the guy that you visualized being the heavyweight MMA champion in a movie. If you ever did an MMA version of Rocky and want that unbeatable champion, you would cast Brock Lesnar A monster, just one bad dude with tattoos and looks more like the guy the mob sends to tell very slowly to stop seeing the don’s daughter.

Brock Lesnar is Ivan Drago, Bobby Lashley is Tommy Gunn, a boxer playing a boxer but I never bought him as a Rocky villain. He was just a boxer, nothing more and nothing else. Creed had charisma, Lang was one bad mofo and Drago was a monster. Mason Dixon felt like a Rocky villain as the champion looking to prove himself as a top guy by beating a fifty year old man, Tommy Gunn was just a boxer.

[adinserter block=”2″]That is what Lashley is, a wrestler and that’s not a bad thing. He just looks like a meat head, one you need if you’re making a movie and need an extra for a gym scene. As much as TNA wants to make him this Lesnar-style monster, that just won’t happen. It didn’t work for the WWE when they pushed him as the new Lesnar, it didn’t work for TNA in his first run and I have doubts that it won’t work now. He was a part of that huge WrestleMania match with Umaga, but were people more interested in Lashley against Umaga or Vince vs Trump with the presence of Austin as ref? He really didn’t inspire much confidence when he was ECW champion and managed to be the worse ECW champion since Justin Frigging Credible. And yes, I’m counting Vince, since he at least had a character and was wearing a doo rag as champion.

Eventually, a company needs to admit that a guy can’t be the top guy and move on. I presume that TNA will probably realize this again with Lashley, just like they did in his first run.

Robert Goeman has been writing for CamelClutchBlog since 2014 and has written for FiveOuncesofPain and What Culture. Follow him on twitter at https://twitter.com/RobertGoeman. After every article, Robert usually does “Talking Points” on twitter, bringin up points that didn’t make the article.

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  1. Robert: that( B.S.) and you know if fans didn’t buy into Bobby Lashley Vince McMahon will never have pushed him so hard.professional wrestling is a racist sport period.Bobby Lashley wasn’t fired from the WWE instead he asked for his release,do to the racial hatred of Michael Hayes.Bobby Lashley is a real athlete and wrestler;and has extensive amateur wrestling background.So please stop this nonsense that Chris Masters is a better wrestling athlete then Bobby Lashley.If you want to run down black wrestlers ,over their lack of success In professional wrestling.Then let me run down Chris Masters; Chris is a pure white man in a sport that celebrates nothing but white men.Yet in the WWE he failed miserably to get over.never had any fans like him was fired from his job;and has never held any main Wrestling Championships;in his whole career.Yet you place him over top of Bobby Lashley.That’s just hilarious.Bobby deserves to be TNA World Heavyweight Champion.There has only been 4 African-Americans in the history of professional wrestling.That has held their company’s main title belt.Ron Simmons ,Booker T, R Truth, Bobby Lashley.Dwayne Johnson is biracial not African American.Its time for America to change their racist ways and stop abusing other human beings based upon the dark color of their skin.I hope Bobby Lashley holds the title belt all summer long.to force you white people I understand what African American wrestling fans have to suffer again,year in and year out.

    • I hate to break it to you but there have been more than four African-Americans in the history of pro wrestling.

      Why does it have to be a black and white thing when Bobby Lashley is criticized? Read Robert’s other pieces, he criticizes plenty of white wrestlers. Maybe he thinks Lashley just sucks?

      • There has only been 4 African American wrestlers that have held their wrestling company’s main world title. WCW black World Heavyweight Champion’s are Ron Simmons and Booker T.> TNA black world heavyweight champion’s R Truth and Bobby Lashley.And that is it.Dwayne Johnson is biracial and identifies as a Samoan.Mark Henry won WWE secondary Heavyweight Championship belt;not the WWE world heavyweight title.Bobby Lashley shouldn’t be compared to wrestler Brock Lesnar period.Those two athletes wrestler for different wrestling organizations;that both have different needs and objectives. WWE is a racist white ran wrestling company;Which promote racial hatred against their black professional wrestlers.WWE ideal of Wrestling Entertainment is that white people are better than black people;and no black person is capable of carrying the WWE World heavyweight Championship .Just go and watch the promo that Triple H cut against Booker T; before their wrestling match at WrestleMania.And that sum up WWE treatment of the African American wrestlers in a nutshell.TNA on the other hand is a company that trying to stay a float in the world of professional wrestling.TNA can’t afford to make the same racist decisions that WWE carries out on a daily basis.TNA has to take all of their fans into consideration;yes including black people.Bobby Lashley represents for African American fans;what John Cena and Daniel Bryan and Randy Orton represents for white wrestling fans.A chance to see someone who looks like us success in professional wrestling.without having to be held down with offensive racist gimmicks.R Truth little Jimmy gimmick.or Cryme Tyme black men celebrating criminal behavior for the entertainment of white folks. We black wrestling fans have had to suffer for years watching ;low level white wrestling talent prancing around with the Heavyweight Championship belt.Jack Swagger,Sid Vicious,The Miz, just to name a few of them .Yet white people fill out and go into a racial rant ,simply because a black man finally holds a World Heavyweight Championship in a wrestling promotion.It’s 2014 an it’s time to stop the hatred and racism against black professional wrestlers.if we can fight war together and black men can give them blood for their country.Then a black wrestler should be allowed the right to carry their wrestling promotions top belt the world heavyweight championship. Without having to deal with racist trash.

        • Spot on. I been saying EVERYTHING in your posts for a few years now. Everything from the Rock being biracial to Mark Henry not getting a chance to hold the WWE’s main title to Triple H pissin on Booker T with that racist promo on Raw. A black man has never held the WWE title and it’s painfully obvious that Vince McMahon is a racist.

          What’s crazy is that people, including the author like to take shots at the south and act like it’s 1939, but the south (NWA, TNA, WCW) has given their main titles to blacks. The southern wrestling companies have done a 10x more for blacks than the WWE has.

          WWE has marginalized us to racial stereotypes and they don’t even reward us for getting over with those stereotypes. Cryme Tyme was over with that stupid racial-stereotyped gimmick and instead of rewarding them with main event spotlight, they threw water on their flame. They also turned Booker T into a clown, but he still managed to get over big time and was not rewarded for it. Even when black wrestlers do a great job at tap dancing to their tune, they still keep them from reaching their full potential.

          I want even mention Piper/DiBiase racist stuff or Ahmed Johnson saying that Vince was go make him the champ until HBK convinced him that the world was ready for a black champion. The evidence of racism in the WWE all over the place.

          I tip my hat off to TNA for forming a black stable, giving them the strap and puttin them at the very top of the company. TNA is doing big things for black people and I’m loving it.

      • No, no, no. I don’t like Bobby Lashley so that must make me a racist! Excuse me, I must get the stars and bars and yearn for the fact that the south didn’t win the war. Colton, this is sarcasm.

    • THIS POST OR ARTICLE HAS NOTHING TO WITH RACISM.

      KEEP REPEATING THIS UNTIL YOU GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL

      YOU MADE THIS ABOUT RACISM.

      The WWE gave Lashley every chance to be the guy and he didn’t connect. I went over these points in my previous comment which you’ve shown no interest in rebutting. They pushed him as the top guy in ECW, people didn’t but it. They put him into the Trump/Vince angle, people still didn’t buy him. They went the route of trying to put him up against McMahon which had worked with Austin and it still didn’t work. Vince has given the big push to guys in the past and it didn’t work. This isn’t new, The Miz headlined a WresleMania, Sheamus was the guy for a short period of time and so was Del Rio. All these guys didn’t connect and now they’re not the top guys.

      Take a look at Mark Henry, a name you have not even mentioned. While people were laughing and making Mark Henry jokes, I loved the big guy. He played his role of monster heel very well and finally got a major push with The Hall of Pain gimmick. You know what happened when they went all the way with him and give him the belt? People bought it, they wanted to see Henry with the belt and the ratings went up when had the belt. That’s why they’ve pushed him as a consisted force as a heel getting feuds and looking competitive against Punk and Cena when they had the belt.

      Now, if Mark Henry a guy who has looked at as a cautionary tale for big contracts can somehow overcome all of that and get the big push and actually do something with it, why couldn’t Lashley? Lashley was given more than Henry and still couldn’t make it work. They hadn’t Lashley everything and he couldn’t connect with the fans as champion and I presume that if he didn’t get injured, he would go the route of many of those guys who got the push. They’d kill the Lashley push and he’d become just another face in the crowd.

      But I’ll presume that you’ll just keep rambling on posting about how I’m slighting black people in you’re most special way of stupidity. Here are the following African American wrestlers I would sign over Bobby Lashley: Uhaa Nation, ACH, Tadarius Thomas, Cedric Alexander, Shelton Benjamin, Blaster McMassive, Richochet, and hell I’d sign Bob Sapp over Bobby Lashley. Because Bob Sapp can cut a damn promo unlike Bobby Lashley.

      I’d rather see TNA sign a guy like Chris Masters not because of the color of his skin but because I think he’s a better worker than Bobby Lashley. Because the guy has worked hard and shown improvement and deserves a legitimate shot at getting back to one of the big three (Well big one, and two medium sized twos). Yet, you’ll continue to make this about racism in some sort of ill-fated attempt to seem intelligent. Yeah, this is the last time I’m posting in this comment section.

  2. Bobby Lashley the champion and that’s it you can find all the white guys you can think of that you feel is qualified for the position.But Dixie Carter has spoken Bobby Lashley is a military veteran;a real professional athletes;and has a awesome amateur wrestling backgrounds.There have been countless wrestlers who have no microphone skills.Chris Benoit, Sid Vicious, Jack Swagger,Kevin Nash Ultimate Warrior,and The Great Khali.All of these men had no verbal skills yet still held the World Heavyweight Championship.Its 2014 and time to end racisms ;if we all can fight war together defending our country from harm.Then people of all colors and background s ; should be treated equally as their white counterparts are.

  3. While I also don’t believe Bobby Lashley as the guy for a long term reign, I do believe he is an appropriate choice for “the guy” right now. MVP is playing Heyman to Lashley’s incarnation of Lesnar, and it has potential to be entertaining for a short while. With Eric Young now finding his place at the top of the roster, Bobby Roode returning, Samoa Joe and Austin Aries in the mix, and Magnus w/ Bram finding his way to relevancy again we could have an interesting mix at the top. Lashley is the muscle head with the believable ability to fend off all comers, but the fight to get the title back by EY and Roode (if run appropriately) should be a great story to follow for the next couple months.

    • In non racist idiot shitposter news, the Manhattan tapings look pretty good and looks like they might be turning things around. So, I’m a bit optimistic at this point.

      • The biggest things TNA have going for them right now, in a Top 3 format:
        3) More interesting Tag team division than WWE (The Wolves, BroMans, Hardys, EC3 & Spud, Bram & Magnus, Menagerie, Joe/Aries)
        2) Exciting and entertaining X-Division. May only be one match a week, but damn it’s exciting to watch!
        1) Uncertainty with the World Title. While WWE feeds us the same predictability that drove us away, TNA is giving us twists that are more difficult (albeit, not impossible) to predict

        I’m excited to see the Manhattan tapings. Hardy’s vs Wolves and Jeff vs Lashley should both be amazing matches!

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